Sonntag, 18. Mai 2014

Their cost and customs fees etc are added upfront to the buyer

On 5/14, a post titled “Ebay items or other web site” appeared on SC. It was about the website weshop.ph which maybe in the Phillipines. When I ran them on Whois, I found New York, Phillipines, & Hanoi. The have weshop.com.net.org.info.biz.&us. They copy your ebay listings, list your ebay name, feedback number, where you are, etc. I ran a test on my cheapest, & most expensive items, on one id:

My Price $6.98 + $18.52 Markup = $25.50 (but listed in PHP, Phillipine pesos) = 265% markup

My Price $69.95 + $53.46 Markup = $123.41 (but listed in PHP, Phillipine pesos) = 42% markup

OK, Can these reshippers do what they are doing on ebay, SURE. Many regular ebay sellers do it too. Pick off some item not seen by others, mislabeled, etc. Relist it for more money. That's what picking is all about. Go for it.

But here's the new wrinkle. Now they just copy your listing. ALL your listings. Your pics, words, commas, periods. Put ALL your listings up for sale on their own site. Marked up to whatever they want. Etsy sellers have been complaining about this for a while now, but those posts dealt mostly with Amazon. Now weshop is also copying listings from Etsy & Zibbet. Plus, they have all my ebay id's & listings on this site. It seems that if they have a single item, they have your whole shop. I tested other sellers posting on this board, & found their entire shops on weshop also. Go to any ebay listing, copy the title, enter it in to the weshop search box, to see if you are there. (you can't just search by ebay seller name). SO WHAT, your exposure is increased enormously. SELL IT, SHIP IT, RIGHT?

Maybe, but what worries me, is that there will be all kinds of these websites pop up, eventually with your items listed on 20 to 40, to who knows how many sites. They have little invested, & it seems they do it mostly with robots. They can easily put a copy of your listing up, then take an order from a customer of theirs. The customer clicks BIN, the order goes to the reshipper, but in just a couple of seconds, before the reshipper confirms the BIN to the buyer, they pick it off ebay, and then confirm the BIN to their customer. If it should happen to be gone, they probably just go back & say “Sorry, it has been sold, please act faster next time”.

Anyway, if they are ligit, & treat their customers right, you may never hear about it. But sooner or later, this will become a scam. Set up the site. Sell some stuff. Then when you get big enough, cheat the buyers, or sellers, or ebay or paypal, or a combination of them, & take off.

When the items get returned, will these sites honor returns? What if they cheat the buyer? I wouldn't care, except that MY NAME is attached to THEIR RESELLING / RESHIPPING business, All the ebay info/links are on there. It is My reputation & My feedback, My Ebay Id, My Etsy Id, My Zibbet Id, & eventually My Own WEBSITE. What if there's a big accident, and the reseller won't handle it, or tells the customer it must have come to him broke?

Say you sent a 100.00 well packed, fragile item to the reshipper. They packed/repacked it poorly. It broke in shipping & their customer returned it to him, maybe even still in your packaging. Maybe something fell on it. Maybe the container door slammed shut on it. They MAY NOW have the time to return it to you, for refund/snad/etc. With returns on Ebay at 90 days during the holidays, & paypal at 180 days, these could easily be returned to us, without any obvious proof that they were shipped through a reseller. Imagine how many of those fights there will be with ebay. (plus GSP may become mandatory).

“If you can't afford to lose it, & pay for the privilege to do so, don't list it here” - is good advice. I can't afford to lose my best profit, $75.00 - $200.00 items. I have a lot of that kind of vintage stuff, most of which I list elsewhere. I'm thinking more & more of my stuff is going back to the B&M. If Ebay & the other sites can't help here, I'm just gonna remove everything over $20.00.  I can afford the $20.00 stuff, assuming it's only a few every day.  :smileylol:  Will Ebay care?  Why would they?  Somebody else is re-listing all the ebay listings.  No work for ebay.  Bigger audience.  Same (actually more) final value fees.

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